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Sorry for the delay, losing the energy for this blog, I may give in soon.

Hey I'm curious what are the hours typically like during non busy season. Obviously busy season is brutal but do you ever get to work a mon-friday 9-5?

9-5 in the big 4 is dead for the foreseeable future. Under the PCAOB era and the  shift in focus to be more on the regulators that the clients, the amount of work we do is borderline insane. The current model as it stands is definitely being stress tested. The attrition level is back to high rates. But I the past (before I started, the summer hours were true summer hours). Now it's the time to bolster walkthroughs and control testing for 404 purposes, since the PCAOB is now focusing on 404 just as much as the financial statement audits.


Anonymous said…
Hi notfordisplay,

Hope you keep this blog alive for at least 7 more is amazing!!

Thank you very much for the time and the effort you put to it. I am very grateful to you for that.

Best Regards from Portugal
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The hours shouldn’t be your focus. Are you being effective and meeting your career and growth objectives? Not to be one to make a big 4 auditor leave the profession, but most internal auditors have higher job satisfaction and better work/life balance. Have you considered such a move?
Anonymous said…

Out of curiosity, what is the busy season like? How many hours on average do you work?

Anonymous said…
Hope you keep posting for this blog. I just started the Big 4 auditing part of my career...can't complain thus far, but I feel that is largely in part to the fact that I haven't had a public client yet. I'm going to ride this nonpublic wave as long as I can!!
Hi, 9 - 5 isn't the word when you run your own firm. specially during deadline times.
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Hi. Can you please do a breakdown on how many years it took for you to get promoted from being a staff associate to where you are right now? Thank you!
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Anonymous said…
9 till 5 doesn't exist, but be aware, it doesn't exists at the other side either.

Please keep running the blog, regards from NL!
itauditsecurity said…
9-5 does exist in internal audit. Depends on the company. More companies are paying more attention to work/life balance, but I can't imagine it in the big 4 or other firms that bill time.
Farhan said…
I hope you dont stop this blog. It really is nice to read it. JIAYOU!
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Jim Peters said…
I really want to become an auditor someday. I think that it would be a really fun job. They seem like they make a lot of money. I still have a lot of schooling to do.
Nice blog, by posting your real audit live, give me a new perspective.
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tinkerbell said…
Hang in there. Truth is we auditors move from one assignment to the next with very little rest because we exist in organizations to sample, review, report.
Anonymous said…
Nice blog!! I see in you r last post that you are thinking on giving up. That would be sad, many people enjoy it!
Thanks for the time and effort you have put to it.

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Anonymous said…
Hi, I am UK Big 4 and I work between 60-70 hours a week continually. Busy season is about 70 hours a week so the rest of the year is pretty much as miserable as the first 3 months.
Anonymous said…
Notfordisplay, I absolutely agree with everyone else. I hope you keep this posting for this blog as you gave lots of great insight and tips for the past several years! It's the best blog about a real life auditor! Who else would understand us more than you.
Tamsel said…
May I ask that does an ACCA graduate who works in Singapore Big4 audit firm need to take CPA while working? Is it compulsory?
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Hi I just had a question regarding private vs public sector auditing. I just finished my first year with a mid-tier sector auditing federal agencies. In your previous posts you said "PS - Stay in private, public sucks"

Could you elaborate a bit. I am currently debating on whether to switch to commercial audits, for a better exit strategy down the road.
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Anonymous said…

You are doing a great job with your blog! Don't give up. Its useful, the things you write.

There is the QP thing to be a CA in Singapore. Is it useful to take that up? or would other certifications be more handy?

It would be great if you could answer the question dated 25 Oct 14 too!

Looking forward to your next posting.

Thank you!
Anonymous said…
I work at a Big 4 and we have 5:00 Fridays on most of my engagements. Might have to work over the weekend, but it is great to leave at 5:00 on Friday. For the average work week, we are scheduled for 55 hours per week. Depending on the engagement team and filing deadlines, it can be more than that. Some teams have to work past midnight several days in a row, but in my experience this is the exception more than the norm. Of course, I work for the best of the Big 4, so might not be true for everyone.
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I am very grateful for all the posts you wrote during these last eight years, but checking old posts I found out just one that I wanted to remind you:
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If you quit this blog, leave as we say in Spain for bullfighters after they made a great performance: " Through the big gate"
Thank you very much for your effort and hard work in your blog.
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